Comments on: Why do African Americans forget that their ancestors were sold into slavery by their fellow man? http://www.theafricanartstore.com/9921/why-do-african-americans-forget-that-their-ancestors-were-sold-into-slavery-by-their-fellow-man/ Your place for the best african art Sun, 01 Aug 2010 03:41:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: rafiah latiker http://www.theafricanartstore.com/9921/why-do-african-americans-forget-that-their-ancestors-were-sold-into-slavery-by-their-fellow-man/comment-page-1/#comment-12618 rafiah latiker Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:27:31 +0000 http://theafricanartstore.com/9921/why-do-african-americans-forget-that-their-ancestors-were-sold-into-slavery-by-their-fellow-man/#comment-12618 thank you for this additional information, another reaction I find annoying is when whites say they are tired of hearing about the European- African slavery I have been at other websites and read angry comments posted to black Americans whenever the subject of African American slavery was discussed. Amazingly you'd be surprise How the subject of African, Islamic slavery pops up and they post that it was worst than the white European slave trade was, in terms of numbers of Africans taken into captivity and treatment, as if to say yes what Europe did to Africa was bad but not as bad as black on black.Thank you for expressing yourself well and not backing down. thank you for this additional information, another reaction I find annoying is when whites say they are tired of hearing about the European- African slavery I have been at other websites and read angry comments posted to black Americans whenever the subject of African American slavery was discussed. Amazingly you’d be surprise How the subject of African, Islamic slavery pops up and they post that it was worst than the white European slave trade was, in terms of numbers of Africans taken into captivity and treatment, as if to say yes what Europe did to Africa was bad but not as bad as black on black.Thank you for expressing yourself well and not backing down.

]]> By: MVA http://www.theafricanartstore.com/9921/why-do-african-americans-forget-that-their-ancestors-were-sold-into-slavery-by-their-fellow-man/comment-page-1/#comment-9039 MVA Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:05:29 +0000 http://theafricanartstore.com/9921/why-do-african-americans-forget-that-their-ancestors-were-sold-into-slavery-by-their-fellow-man/#comment-9039 There were indeed many black slaves who were whipped. Try resisting arrest no matter what color you are and see if you don't get your guts stomped out. I'm guessing that there were some slaves that were somewhat rebellious or otherwise refused to get with the program. Those types got the crap whipped out of them.. and usually in front of the others as an example(?). My grandmother used to tell me about a great, great, great uncle of mine who owned slaves in the south during the Civil War.. and they loved him. In fact, when the Emancipation was signed for them to be released, they didn't really want to go.. and stayed around until the time came when they were forced to leave. My uncle gave each 'head of household' a buck-board and two horses.. gave them his name (Curry).. and taught them how to write it. So, not all of the stories we are told (history books, "Roots") is all true. Surely some got whipped.. but, in the minds of the 'owners'.. they must have needed it(?). Not saying it's right.. just saying. There were indeed many black slaves who were whipped. Try resisting arrest no matter what color you are and see if you don’t get your guts stomped out. I’m guessing that there were some slaves that were somewhat rebellious or otherwise refused to get with the program. Those types got the crap whipped out of them.. and usually in front of the others as an example(?).

My grandmother used to tell me about a great, great, great uncle of mine who owned slaves in the south during the Civil War.. and they loved him. In fact, when the Emancipation was signed for them to be released, they didn’t really want to go.. and stayed around until the time came when they were forced to leave.

My uncle gave each ‘head of household’ a buck-board and two horses.. gave them his name (Curry).. and taught them how to write it.

So, not all of the stories we are told (history books, “Roots”) is all true. Surely some got whipped.. but, in the minds of the ‘owners’.. they must have needed it(?). Not saying it’s right.. just saying.

]]> By: Moorfius http://www.theafricanartstore.com/9921/why-do-african-americans-forget-that-their-ancestors-were-sold-into-slavery-by-their-fellow-man/comment-page-1/#comment-8618 Moorfius Wed, 13 Jan 2010 05:00:58 +0000 http://theafricanartstore.com/9921/why-do-african-americans-forget-that-their-ancestors-were-sold-into-slavery-by-their-fellow-man/#comment-8618 There can be only one reason (trickery) to continue to keep telling the same lie. By making it seem as though the so-called white man was a innocent by-stander, standing thousands of miles away from ware they came from, but got in ships and just happen to have kid-napped, mostly young so-called African children just given over by their own so-called people who are the real guilty ones and not the poor vacationing white people who found them selves some ware they didn't belong with big ships, chains and shackles that just happen to be there in those ships. It is well documented and proven that the so-called white men did in deed and fact, attack thousands of villages and kill off the older men and women with the help of some so-called African's under fear of having the same done to them, if they didn't do as they were told, or have their hands, arms, legs, foot or head cut off if they didn't help the crazy, insane and greedy so-called white people who now want to know why the "Children of the so-called African ancestors" still love their "Home Land" and all of those who will except them back to ware they originated in the first place, who did not leave on their own willingly to catch hell in the American slave trade. Every one on this planet has a home land that they can call their own, including the so-called African in America who has now forgotten who he and she is and today think that they are some one else, due to the insane indoctrination through the so-called slave education received after they had been put to sleep and made less than human through this process, that has taken away (their own) culture, language, self respect and every thing else. If a child of so-called Africa wants to stay with his or her Slave Master's children, that is their choice but they will find out soon enough, that they are being trick by these slave masters children who only wants to continue to suck the blood through exploitation and death and nothing else, as it has been for the past 500 years. As for those (so-called Africans) who choose so-called "Afrocentrism over the trick of Euro-sin-trick" illusions of inclusion, "We know we must find our way back home" and recapture or spirituality and sanity, because "We" are the only reason our ancestors existed and we are not foolish enough to betray them and think we can enjoy any proper success in this life continuing in this same pitiful condition, ware we are not in control of our own destinies, or any thing else. There can be only one reason (trickery) to continue to keep telling the same lie. By making it seem as though the so-called white man was a innocent by-stander, standing thousands of miles away from ware they came from, but got in ships and just happen to have kid-napped, mostly young so-called African children just given over by their own so-called people who are the real guilty ones and not the poor vacationing white people who found them selves some ware they didn’t belong with big ships, chains and shackles that just happen to be there in those ships.

It is well documented and proven that the so-called white men did in deed and fact, attack thousands of villages and kill off the older men and women with the help of some so-called African’s under fear of having the same done to them, if they didn’t do as they were told, or have their hands, arms, legs, foot or head cut off if they didn’t help the crazy, insane and greedy so-called white people who now want to know why the “Children of the so-called African ancestors” still love their “Home Land” and all of those who will except them back to ware they originated in the first place, who did not leave on their own willingly to catch hell in the American slave trade.

Every one on this planet has a home land that they can call their own, including the so-called African in America who has now forgotten who he and she is and today think that they are some one else, due to the insane indoctrination through the so-called slave education received after they had been put to sleep and made less than human through this process, that has taken away (their own) culture, language, self respect and every thing else.

If a child of so-called Africa wants to stay with his or her Slave Master’s children, that is their choice but they will find out soon enough, that they are being trick by these slave masters children who only wants to continue to suck the blood through exploitation and death and nothing else, as it has been for the past 500 years.

As for those (so-called Africans) who choose so-called “Afrocentrism over the trick of Euro-sin-trick” illusions of inclusion, “We know we must find our way back home” and recapture or spirituality and sanity, because “We” are the only reason our ancestors existed and we are not foolish enough to betray them and think we can enjoy any proper success in this life continuing in this same pitiful condition, ware we are not in control of our own destinies, or any thing else.

]]> By: Tanilia Keel http://www.theafricanartstore.com/9921/why-do-african-americans-forget-that-their-ancestors-were-sold-into-slavery-by-their-fellow-man/comment-page-1/#comment-8413 Tanilia Keel Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:27:41 +0000 http://theafricanartstore.com/9921/why-do-african-americans-forget-that-their-ancestors-were-sold-into-slavery-by-their-fellow-man/#comment-8413 Okay I see no one knows their history! African tribal leaders did sell other Africans to the Europeans or whom ever, but what you fail to realize is that Africa has many different tribes with their own ritual beliefs and cultural beliefs. Each tribe was aganist each other in a sense. Africans were not educated about CHATTEL slavery. Their slavery consisted of selling one another to another tribe to work off debt or used as a bargain. As always the Europeans and who ever else took advantage of the lack of knowledge and use it aganist them. But let's not forget that the Europeans had enslaved the natives before hand to do their dirty work but since they were familiar with land they were being enslaved on they were able to escape easier. Unlike the Africans. This did happen years and years ago and people should move on, but when discrimination is still prevalent in the United States its hard to let go. Our past makes us who we are today. STRONG AUTONOMOUS EDUCATED etc etc, black people. SO we cannot move on. If we forget what was done to us nothing will become of us. Okay I see no one knows their history! African tribal leaders did sell other Africans to the Europeans or whom ever, but what you fail to realize is that Africa has many different tribes with their own ritual beliefs and cultural beliefs. Each tribe was aganist each other in a sense. Africans were not educated about CHATTEL slavery. Their slavery consisted of selling one another to another tribe to work off debt or used as a bargain. As always the Europeans and who ever else took advantage of the lack of knowledge and use it aganist them. But let’s not forget that the Europeans had enslaved the natives before hand to do their dirty work but since they were familiar with land they were being enslaved on they were able to escape easier. Unlike the Africans. This did happen years and years ago and people should move on, but when discrimination is still prevalent in the United States its hard to let go. Our past makes us who we are today. STRONG AUTONOMOUS EDUCATED etc etc, black people. SO we cannot move on. If we forget what was done to us nothing will become of us.

]]> By: MVA http://www.theafricanartstore.com/9921/why-do-african-americans-forget-that-their-ancestors-were-sold-into-slavery-by-their-fellow-man/comment-page-1/#comment-6999 MVA Sat, 09 Jan 2010 23:18:13 +0000 http://theafricanartstore.com/9921/why-do-african-americans-forget-that-their-ancestors-were-sold-into-slavery-by-their-fellow-man/#comment-6999 AMEN SISTER! I hate all the mess they had to endure.. but I'm glad they did indeed 'indure'.. as America wouldn't seem like America if she were only one color. How mundane and boring would that be? AMEN SISTER! I hate all the mess they had to endure.. but I’m glad they did indeed ‘indure’.. as America wouldn’t seem like America if she were only one color. How mundane and boring would that be?

]]> By: MVA http://www.theafricanartstore.com/9921/why-do-african-americans-forget-that-their-ancestors-were-sold-into-slavery-by-their-fellow-man/comment-page-1/#comment-6997 MVA Sat, 09 Jan 2010 22:57:55 +0000 http://theafricanartstore.com/9921/why-do-african-americans-forget-that-their-ancestors-were-sold-into-slavery-by-their-fellow-man/#comment-6997 The American government has been pretty much like the English and the French.. gotta have their noses where it doesn't belong. Gotta step in and take over. Policing of other nations.. nation-building. Specific items that George W said in his campaign for president.. that he wasn't going to do.. didn't want to do. WHATEVER. Our government doesn't give a big rat's patoot about Iraq or Afghanistan.. nor any of those other countries. Just what they can get out of them. If they have something we need or want, we go over and have our way with those people.. all under the guise of doing something nice or good. I've not been following the current administration.. but, the last administration was a joke.. and caused a self-inflicted catastrophy (911) to justify invading Iraq and Afghanistan to set up perminate oil drilling/refineries in order to make a select few here in the US filthy, bloody rich. Bush Sr, Dubya and Cheney form the nucleus of the "Axis of Corporate Evil." We went over to Afghanistan to knock out the Taliban because of their fanatical religious and woman oppression.. whatever! Fact is.. the Taliban was cleaning up all the corrupt activity over there.. almost fully eradicating the poppy growth.. hence, cutting into our drugs and drug money. We killed them out before all the poppy growers were fully put out of business.. therefore, there is a new wave of cheap, highly, highly potent heroin coming into the US through the northeast that would make the stuff 25 years ago seem like Bayer baby aspirin.. and it's cheap as dirt. Mission accomplished George W! I suppose that what I'm saying here is.. no matter what our race, we'd best band together as a common people that make up a country.. thats going to be 'belly-up' if somethings not done. We need to bring those responsible to justice.. and they're not anywhere in the Middle East... but, right here in our the USA. The American government has been pretty much like the English and the French.. gotta have their noses where it doesn’t belong.
Gotta step in and take over. Policing of other nations.. nation-building. Specific items that George W said in his campaign for president.. that he wasn’t going to do.. didn’t want to do. WHATEVER.

Our government doesn’t give a big rat’s patoot about Iraq or Afghanistan.. nor any of those other countries. Just what they can get out of them. If they have something we need or want, we go over and have our way with those people.. all under the guise of doing something nice or good.

I’ve not been following the current administration.. but, the last administration was a joke.. and caused a self-inflicted catastrophy (911) to justify invading Iraq and Afghanistan to set up perminate oil drilling/refineries in order to make a select few here in the US filthy, bloody rich. Bush Sr, Dubya and Cheney form the nucleus of the “Axis of Corporate Evil.”

We went over to Afghanistan to knock out the Taliban because of their fanatical religious and woman oppression.. whatever! Fact is.. the Taliban was cleaning up all the corrupt activity over there.. almost fully eradicating the poppy growth.. hence, cutting into our drugs and drug money. We killed them out before all the poppy growers were fully put out of business.. therefore, there is a new wave of cheap, highly, highly potent heroin coming into the US through the northeast that would make the stuff 25 years ago seem like Bayer baby aspirin.. and it’s cheap as dirt. Mission accomplished George W!

I suppose that what I’m saying here is.. no matter what our race, we’d best band together as a common people that make up a country.. thats going to be ‘belly-up’ if somethings not done. We need to bring those responsible to justice.. and they’re not anywhere in the Middle East… but, right here in our the USA.

]]> By: MVA http://www.theafricanartstore.com/9921/why-do-african-americans-forget-that-their-ancestors-were-sold-into-slavery-by-their-fellow-man/comment-page-1/#comment-6995 MVA Sat, 09 Jan 2010 22:29:18 +0000 http://theafricanartstore.com/9921/why-do-african-americans-forget-that-their-ancestors-were-sold-into-slavery-by-their-fellow-man/#comment-6995 I voted for Obama.. and not because he\\\'s black (actually, Molato) either. I\\\'m as white as it gets. I thought he would be the best person for the job. After 8 years of Bush, I was just about ready for Shemp Howard. What you\\\'re saying about how our country used to be with all the second-class citizenship of women and blacks is true.. and sickens me. But, you want to know what else sickens me? People who, in lieu of standing up for \\\'right vs wrong\\\' want to tap into the race crap. Everything is NOT about race. Some things are.. not everything. Black people have made more advances in the past 50 years here in the USA, than they ever had since their entire existance. If black people were still in Africa, I promise you wouldn\\\'t be so proud of your heritage. I believe that everything bad that happens to us.. if we allow it, God will turn it into something wonderful ie. slavery = bad.. the fact that it got you here = good. Count your blessings! I voted for Obama.. and not because he\\\’s black (actually, Molato) either. I\\\’m as white as it gets. I thought he would be the best person for the job. After 8 years of Bush, I was just about ready for Shemp Howard.

What you\\\’re saying about how our country used to be with all the second-class citizenship of women and blacks is true.. and sickens me. But, you want to know what else sickens me? People who, in lieu of standing up for \\\’right vs wrong\\\’ want to tap into the race crap. Everything is NOT about race. Some things are.. not everything. Black people have made more advances in the past 50 years here in the USA, than they ever had since their entire existance. If black people were still in Africa, I promise you wouldn\\\’t be so proud of your heritage.

I believe that everything bad that happens to us.. if we allow it, God will turn it into something wonderful ie. slavery = bad.. the fact that it got you here = good. Count your blessings!

]]> By: MVA http://www.theafricanartstore.com/9921/why-do-african-americans-forget-that-their-ancestors-were-sold-into-slavery-by-their-fellow-man/comment-page-1/#comment-6992 MVA Sat, 09 Jan 2010 22:09:59 +0000 http://theafricanartstore.com/9921/why-do-african-americans-forget-that-their-ancestors-were-sold-into-slavery-by-their-fellow-man/#comment-6992 Those were the way things were then. If something/someone is for sale, why would you yell at the purchaser? You should pehaps be just a little irritated at those who were doing the selling, for a profit. Where I come from, we call those types "sell-outs" aka "betrayers".. 'Displaced aggression' makes a person seem rather stupid.. wouldn't you agree :-) Those were the way things were then. If something/someone is for sale, why would you yell at the purchaser? You should pehaps be just a little irritated at those who were doing the selling, for a profit.

Where I come from, we call those types “sell-outs” aka “betrayers”..

‘Displaced aggression’ makes a person seem rather stupid.. wouldn’t you agree :-)

]]> By: MVA http://www.theafricanartstore.com/9921/why-do-african-americans-forget-that-their-ancestors-were-sold-into-slavery-by-their-fellow-man/comment-page-1/#comment-6990 MVA Sat, 09 Jan 2010 21:58:07 +0000 http://theafricanartstore.com/9921/why-do-african-americans-forget-that-their-ancestors-were-sold-into-slavery-by-their-fellow-man/#comment-6990 I've not lost a thing in Cameroon.. just so long as the US keeps importing cameroon tobacco for wrapping premium cigars.. ha! Yes, guys... even chicks can appreciate a fine smoke from time to time ;-) I’ve not lost a thing in Cameroon.. just so long as the US keeps importing cameroon tobacco for wrapping premium cigars.. ha!

Yes, guys… even chicks can appreciate a fine smoke from time to time ;-)

]]> By: MVA http://www.theafricanartstore.com/9921/why-do-african-americans-forget-that-their-ancestors-were-sold-into-slavery-by-their-fellow-man/comment-page-1/#comment-6989 MVA Sat, 09 Jan 2010 21:48:13 +0000 http://theafricanartstore.com/9921/why-do-african-americans-forget-that-their-ancestors-were-sold-into-slavery-by-their-fellow-man/#comment-6989 The first recorded events of African slavery in Colonial America was in the late 1600\'s when a British (Dutch) pirate ship was in battle with a Portuguese ship bound for Mexico.. capturing around 20 of their Angolan slaves. Most slaves were blacks held by white... but, also held by other blacks.. as well as some Native Americans. There were a small number of white slaves, also. Black African slaves were captured by Europeans and such.. as well as by other black Africans.. and were sold for profit. I\'m not saying that \"slavery\" of any kind was right.. but, it was the way things were then.. aka \"a sign of the times\".. and African blacks did indeed engage in the capturing and selling of their own.. for profit. The \"Confederate\" Battle flag.. the one that has been shunned by blacks and some ignorant whites, as well.. deeming it as all about racism and oppression of the black man.. had/has nothing to do with \"white\".. or \'slavery\' or \'oppression\' of anyone.. and, EVERYTHING to do with \"Southern Culture\" in the US.. whether one is black, white, hispanic or native American. The TRUTH is... the Northern Army (Union; Yankee).. had their own segretated \"Negro\" or \"Colored\" brigade... all the while the Confederate Army troops all fought side-by-side... blacks, whites, hispanics and indians.. all together as one. I\'ve noticed that Abe Lincold seems like a national \'hero\' to many black folks... but, truth of the matter is : by today\'s standard, he would be considered a \"white supremacist.\" Even though he allowed the slaves to go free.. not only did it take over two years to follow up and make sure they did indeed walk, because many did not want to go... he still made it clear that they should remain a seperate people.. living their own lives seperate from the white population. When a lot of the fred slaves moved north.. thinking they were going to land into some \'oasis\' or whatever, they fell into a rude awakening.. as most white tradesmen wouldn\'t dare work with or next to a black man. Strange how most black people either don\'t know these facts... or they\'re practicing DOUBLE-THINK (2+2=5) :-) The first recorded events of African slavery in Colonial America was in the late 1600\’s when a British (Dutch) pirate ship was in battle with a Portuguese ship bound for Mexico.. capturing around 20 of their Angolan slaves. Most slaves were blacks held by white… but, also held by other blacks.. as well as some Native Americans. There were a small number of white slaves, also.

Black African slaves were captured by Europeans and such.. as well as by other black Africans.. and were sold for profit.

I\’m not saying that \"slavery\" of any kind was right.. but, it was the way things were then.. aka \"a sign of the times\".. and African blacks did indeed engage in the capturing and selling of their own.. for profit.

The \"Confederate\" Battle flag.. the one that has been shunned by blacks and some ignorant whites, as well.. deeming it as all about racism and oppression of the black man.. had/has nothing to do with \"white\".. or \’slavery\’ or \’oppression\’ of anyone.. and, EVERYTHING to do with \"Southern Culture\" in the US.. whether one is black, white, hispanic or native American. The TRUTH is… the Northern Army (Union; Yankee).. had their own segretated \"Negro\" or \"Colored\" brigade… all the while the Confederate Army troops all fought side-by-side… blacks, whites, hispanics and indians.. all together as one.

I\’ve noticed that Abe Lincold seems like a national \’hero\’ to many black folks… but, truth of the matter is : by today\’s standard, he would be considered a \"white supremacist.\" Even though he allowed the slaves to go free.. not only did it take over two years to follow up and make sure they did indeed walk, because many did not want to go… he still made it clear that they should remain a seperate people.. living their own lives seperate from the white population. When a lot of the fred slaves moved north.. thinking they were going to land into some \’oasis\’ or whatever, they fell into a rude awakening.. as most white tradesmen wouldn\’t dare work with or next to a black man.

Strange how most black people either don\’t know these facts… or they\’re practicing DOUBLE-THINK (2+2=5) :-)

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